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NIC Voice GC2004 Update - Part III


NIC VOICE is a network of laity in the Northern Illinois Conference of the United Methodist Church.
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NIC VOICE is a network of laity in the Northern Illinois Conference of the United Methodist Church.
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How to listen/watch GC2004 session:
 
Bandwidth has been added to the UMC; if you continue to have difficulties accessing video/audio feeds at the UMC site, try these alternative links:
 
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2004 General Conference Archive
Click here to listen to the following addresses http://gatewayumc.org/gc04.htm
Episcopal Address, Bishop Kenneth Carder
Episcopal Address Transcript:  http://umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=17&mid=4261
Laity Address, Gloria Holt, pres., UM Assn. of Annual Conf. Lay Leaders (N. Alabama Conf.)
 
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NEW!!!!!!!:  Reporter Interactive:
Bishops call for global conferencing on doctrine, diversity:  http://www.reporterinteractive.org/news/042804/GC04_d.htm
Conference opens with call for praise, prayer, work:  http://www.reporterinteractive.org/news/042804/GC04_c.htm
Effort fails to have bishops preside in committees:  http://www.reporterinteractive.org/news/042804/GC04_a.htm
Bishops express hope for 'holy conferencing: http://www.reporterinteractive.org/news/042804/pastoral.htm
Most in polls would toughen ban on gays, lesbians in church:  http://www.reporterinteractive.org/news/042804/polls.htm
 
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As the present General Conference meets in Pittsburgh, however, I have found a certain peace about its final outcome, whatever it may be. I am by no means confident that the vote will go “our” way again. Even if it does, it only means that The United Methodist Church will continue to limp along with all the vibrancy of a whitewashed tomb for yet another four years, outwardly rejecting revisionist morality but inwardly corrupted by the very worldview which embraces it with open arms.
 
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Good News - Focus News Letter
Focus News Letter Welcome and Index:  http://www.umdecision2004.org/focus_news/index_focus.htm

Focus, Good News’ General Conference daily newsletter will be posted here during the days of General Conference in Pittsburgh PA . For more than 30 years, Good News has urged the church to be faithful to the biblically-based principles of its historic Wesleyan heritage. Through our award-winning magazine and our yearly conferences, we have attempted to be a voice for repentance, an agent for reform, and a catalyst for renewal within the United Methodist Church.
Focus will be published 10 times during our busy days here.

 

 
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Daily Reports by Mark Edwards, PNWAC Delegate as posted on the FUMC Ellensburg, WA (Karen Dammann's former church):
 
 
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Affirmation Daily Newsletter, Drops of Water:
 
Day 2 Topics Include:

Caucus Platform Urges End of Discrimination

Affirmation to Host Trans- Trans-gender gender Conversations during Common Witness Luncheon

MFSA Presents:  MFSA presents "An Evening of Entertainment and Recognition for Excellence in Social Justice Ministry".

Saturday evening MFSA will be presenting its Ball Award for Excellence in Social Justice Ministry.

The program will also feature the Montana Logging and Ballet Company. This quartet is devoted to social justice through satire and song. They can often be heard on National Public Radio’s Weekend Edition Sunday. General Conference 2004 is bound to give them plenty of raw material.

Members Invited to Annual Affirmation Corporate Meeting

 
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GC2004 Updates by Faithful Christian Laity: 
This unofficial BB is being used by Faithful Christian Laity (evangelical group in PNWAC) to provide updates.  Cathy Biehler is volunteering with Good News and is attending the entire conference.
 
 
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Now the issue appears to be coming to a head in the wake of a strong push by liberal Methodists to accept homosexual clergy. At Tuesday's opening session of the UMC's 2004 General Conference, speakers such as Pastor James Perry seemed to give recognition to the divisions -- but then promoted the idea that compromise is the only solution.

"What would it be like if we had a moratorium on issues that divide us, and spent all our time and energy focusing on reaching out to those in our world who feel like outcasts and [sharing] God's love with them?" Perry asked.

Conservatives remain angry that a recent church trial in Washington state acquitted a lesbian pastor or any wrongdoing, even though the UMC's Book of Discipline calls homosexual relationships "incompatible with Christian teaching." Liberals want that clause removed from church law.

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http://www.sptimes.com/2004/04/28/Worldandnation/For_her_traditional_b.shtml

By SHARON TUBBS, Times Staff Writer, Published April 28, 2004, St. Petersburg Times

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One proposal drafted by Good News, an evangelical renewal group for Methodists, is titled "Prohibit Promotion of the Acceptance of Homosexuality." The petition would prevent Methodist funds from being used to support gay groups or to promote tolerance for homosexuality.

There will be others concerning sexual orientation, Miller says. Church leaders, whom she declined to name, are working on amendments that she thinks could largely resolve the issue.

One solution, she said, would involve property. Ordinarily, a Methodist congregation owns its church building. A "trust clause" allows the denomination to take control of the property when a congregation breaks from the church. But the amendment would allow congregations that support homosexuality to leave the denomination and keep their buildings.

Secondly, pastors intent on supporting gays by performing same-sex unions could leave the church and take their pensions with them. Currently, only ministers who have served 35 years or are 62 are eligible to receive pensions.

This would not be a church split, Miller says.

"Separation says we divide the church in half - this is your part and this is your part and who gets the name and all that sort of thing. That's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about division."

 

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The Rev. Troy Plummer, executive director of Reconciling Ministries Network, a gay rights organization for Methodists, has heard these proposals before. But his group has no interest in taking the "buyouts," as he called them.

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Pastor who married gays is delegate to a divided United Methodist conference
UNION-TRIBUNE RELIGION & ETHICS EDITOR, April 29, 2004
 

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Nearly 1,000 clergy and lay delegates are there for the international meeting, which began Tuesday and ends next Friday, gearing up for another emotional showdown in a denomination whose long-standing statement has been that homosexuality is "incompatible with Christian teaching."

Oliveto is one of those delegates.

She also is part of the debate.

Over Valentine's Day weekend, Oliveto conducted what she calls the first legal gay marriage inside a United Methodist church. It was a very public ceremony, complete with news coverage. And after it came an official complaint that could ultimately result in her defrocking.

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