After the proclamation was confirmed, the Rev. Robert Renfroe, a
Confessing Movement board member and associate minister at the Woodlands
United Methodist Church near Houston, addressed the conference. "We need
to listen as first steps toward unity. Listen to others; listen to God,"
he said. — Craig L. Adams
John Quigley wrote in response to Craig L. Adams: "I could have sworn we
had been listening, and been in dialogue for the last 30 + years. When do we
stop with the "dialogue" and the "listening" and start actually calling
heresy what it is?"
I have been asking a similar question for many years, John. I want to
know what it will take to cause a sufficient number who might make up the
"we" in your question to stop talking, and start acting. There is no reason
for the subject of allowing any kind of sin to exist among the membership to
come before another General Conference. Further, the door should be opened,
(we do have an "open door" policy do we not) and those who want the practice
of sin to be allowable for church members should be escorted out through
those doors...."See ya!"
I am a sinner, saved by grace. I'm not without sin, but I do not "practice"
it. I am repentant, and broken when I recognize my sin. If I should ever
desire to go back to my old ways, thereby dissolving my spiritual
relationship with God and his church, I hope that I would dissolve my
association with the church physically as well, thus not adding hypocrisy to
my list of sins.
God bless all of you stalwarts of the faith, and for those who will presume
to speak a word for the Lord tomorrow morning, may his anointing be upon you
and give you souls for your efforts.
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]
On Behalf Of Ron Burbank
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: [cmdiscuss] UMNS: Confessing Movement Issues Statement on Unity
The sign of a failed system is that no matter what goes in, the same
thing comes out. The way to fix a failed system is to let it fail.
- John Warrener