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How to Deal with an Ungodly Pastor

Jude 1:3-4 (NIV) Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Because of recent trends involving the issues of homosexual marriage and lifestyle being preached in our United Methodist Churches as acceptable by ordained clergy, as well as other scripturally and an traditionally "unholy" ideas and practices, I have received various pleas for help from lay people around the country facing this in their own churches.

One church leader asked if it was possible for a church to be under satanic attach?

To which I answer, Yes, any church that can be described as the scripture above is under satanic attach. The Devil is crafty, but his plan is predictable.

I. Satan's Plan

A. On a Church Level, it follows this pattern:

  1. secretly "slip in" an intolerable heresy by "godless men(women)"
  2. outrage the members into fleeing their local church
  3. assume the tangible assets and leadership of the church
  4. another church's witness of Christ has been neutralized

I have personally seen it happen to several churches of my family members.

B. On a personal faith level the pattern is like this:

  1. the Devil creates great turmoil and crises in the eyes of the believer
  2. all eyes of true believers are focused upon the crises
  3. the crises (the Devil's creation) is now "directing" the believer through the believer's reactions
  4. Jesus Christ is no longer the Lord of the believer's life, the Devil is doing the directing through reactions to the crises
  5. another faithful believer's witness of Christ has been neutralized

II. What to do:

A. Pray, Pray, Pray

  1. Pray for your own faith. This is an attack of the Devil and not Christ's Church which is upon the faithful believers.
  2. Pray for the souls of these "godless men(women)" that they may be convicted by the Holy Spirit and saved from their heresy which leads to a more terrible punishment.
  3. Pray for each other in order to fix your eyes upon the source of your strength and not be directed by the creations of the Devil.

B. Study, Study, Study

  1. Study the Bible with true believers to uphold and encourage faith and rebuke error. Use John Wesley's comments on the New Testament. (visit the Confessing Movement - Articles - Historic Documents to download them)
  2. Study the historic Wesleyan traditions of our denomination. (Also at the CM - Articles - Historic Documents site)
  3. Study the Confessing Movement Documents

C. Meet, Meet, Meet

  1. Meet together as true believers to encourage one another (in homes if possible).
  • discuss ("gripe") at first to identify the Devils distractions
  • confess your little faith before God and one another
  • surrender these gripes by name to God's care and let them go for the rest of the meeting
  • focus on prayer and study
  1. Meet at all the church meetings.
  • stand firm in the faith with what the Holy Spirit is revealing to you in your prayer and study
  • don't worry about winning anything, worry about being obedient
  • look forward to your next prayer and study meeting
  1. Meet with other "renewal-spiritual" groups outside your local church like
  • the Confessing Movement
  • Good News
  • Promise Keepers
  • RENEW (women's group)

D. Share, Share, Share

  1. Share what you are learning and experiencing with other members of your church
  2. Share what you are learning and experiencing with others who are not members of your church
  3. Share Christ with another person who does not know him as Lord

E. Final Comments

  1. If the faithful members of your congregation can:
  • remain and not flee
  • join together to encourage each other
  • you will be able to stand firm and not attack
  1. the "godless men(women)" will flee!
  2. Remember the goal is not to win-that's God's job! Your goal is to stand firm and not be moved.

Ephesians 6:10-18 (NIV) Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

III. Let us Pray,

Eternal and Almighty God, you truly are the God of heaven and earth.

Lord, I lift up and place under your mercy all the saints and their faith.

Lord, if you choose, give them the supernatural gift of faith, that they might become encouraged and increase the faith of others. Cover them with your precious redeeming blood, fill them with the power of your Holy Spirit, and protect them from the demonic forces of evil which would seek to diminish their Christian witness.

Lord, bring the faithful saints of the United Methodist Church together in one accord to stand firm in your faith.

In the name of Jesus Christ the Lord, I rebuke the power and schemes of the Devil and command you to leave Christ's Holy Church.

Lord, expose any sin on the part of your saints, forgive us, and make us fit vessels to stand firm in the spiritual battle ahead.

Lord, cleanse and renew our denomination again, to your glory and power.


Please feel free to contact me any time: Rev. John Warrener ( or visit me at my personal web site

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